Kevin Kookegy

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Kevin Kookegy Interview


Kevin Kookegy has managed Mute Math since the band’s inception. Kevin, who has a background in entertainment law, gives us a small glimpse of the workings of an independent label (Teleprompt) working alongside a major (Warner Bros.) and delves into some of the promotion for Mute Math’s new album Armistice. During the interview Kevin brings up the 360 deal which slowly starting to become the standard in the record industry. In simple terms, a 360 deal means the label and the artist form more of a partnership. It seems that Kevin thinks there is potential in that idea when it comes to the band’s fans as well.

 

Interviewed by Mike Flaherty



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Humdrum: Was Teleprompt Records formed as a way of retaining the bands artistic control over the music?

 

Kevin Kookegy: Teleprompt was formed when I merged my management company with Tedd Tjornhom’s production company and then we went to Paul (Meany) and offered him a small percentage of the company in order to give him a better deal. We were a small independent label and we weren’t able to give more points or more money so we offered him a part of the company in order to secure his investment in the vision of Teleprompt and what we were doing.  So he knew that whatever we were doing would always benefit him because he shared on that side of the deal.

 

Humdrum: Do you think the arrangement you have where you have your own record company and have a distribution deal with a major is the way of the future?

 

Kevin Kookegy: Yeah, it’s interesting, when we formed Teleprompt a lot of people looked at us with sort of jaundiced eyes saying, "well, you’re in all sorts of conflict" but we were 360 before 360 was even cool. What happened after that is interesting because we started to have success, and we were able to do things efficiently and effectively. When the major labels started talking about doing 360 deals they wanted to be like us but they’re not equipped to do 360 in the true sense of the word because they are traditional record companies.

 

So we became attractive because we were small and because we were effective doing what we do. Our partnership with Warner Bros. has worked really well because they do what we cannot do, they have world wide distribution, they have people all over the world, they have people in this country that can reach places that we can’t with sales and distribution and world wide marketing.

 

But what’s really fantastic about the relationship is, they let us drive all of that. We drive the creative from the record standpoint, what the band creates, form the packaging, to the marketing plan, they all come from us and then they implement them for us. It’s really a wonderful relationship.

 

Humdrum: For Armistice you have some interesting pre-release promotion like the listening party and the vlogs in the studio. I guess that comes from you guys then?

 

 

Kevin Kookegy: Well the listening party was an idea I conceived two years ago when Mute Math was finishing its fall 2007 tour and I knew that we were going in to the studio to work on the next record. Mute Math is a band that has a intermediate national profile, what I mean by that is we can sell out concerts all over the country but the way we do it is word of mouth.

 

Typically when we sell out a show a lot of that is the week before the show and walk ups. So I was looking for a way to bring greater awareness to most of our markets so that fans would buy tickets sooner in the process. We have always supported our promoters and worked very closely with our promoters and I wanted to take it up a step so I thought, lets take the idea of a traditional listening party which is you send the record out to a bunch of cities and have people gather around to listen to the it on a release date, why don’t we use that as a tool to get our fans in each city that we’re going to tour to come out and to have an event before the event. So it really borrowed from political campaigning and that was to send an advance team into each market. The band really liked the idea.   

 

We left Nashville on the 3rd of July and we’re about half done now. We are covering every one of our core markets. What we do is we pull into a city much like a political campaign on a bus. The bus is wrapped in Mute Math artwork, fans come onto the bus, we break them up into sessions. Usually about 20 is all we can fit at a time so depending on the market size we’ll have about two to five sessions. They’ll come in, they’ll be introduced to the record, we’ll explain who we are why we’re doing this. They’ve already bought VIP tickets, with those you get a ticket to the concert, the record as soon as it releases, you get b-sides, t-shirt, you get a first in line pass, an autographed lithograph and an exclusive invitation to the listening party.

 

The bus ended up being one of the most attractive parts, since most people haven’t been on a tour bus before. In half the cities we had one of the band members with us to answer questions. What’s been most satisfying the response both to the record and this listening party experience, we’re having fans say, oh my gosh, I wish more bands would do this, I can’t believe I get to listen to a whole record before it’s released and you want my comments on it? We hand out a comment sheet and ask them to tell us what you like, tell us what you don’t like, and just be honest with us. We’re trying to gather market research but we’re also trying to build a relationship with our fans.

 

Part of this was to start to build a different kind of fan club experience. In my experience the fan club has been easy to get fans in the door, they pay a little money, but there’s not a lot of service after that. Let’s form a real relationship. There’s some data you can collect through the internet, collect on paper, but there’s nothing like going up to a person, face to face, eye to eye and shake their hand and to really hear what they like and what they don’t like. It’s been great market research, and we’re only half way done with this. Even when this finishes this is just the beginning of what we’re trying to build.

 

Humdrum: Would you use this marketing information to choose for example what singles to put out?

 

Kevin Kookegy: Since this is a core group of fans I don’t know if that particular question you asked would be as effective. We are getting about three or four songs that the fans continue to say are their favorites but most of what we’re using will be used in order to super-serve our fans. Prior to this we had one or two hardcore fans in any city that we could go to with promotional material or information to get the word out.

 

Now we have anywhere from 50 to 120 in every city that are hardcore, bought a premium ticket and want to promote Mute Math in their market. So whenever there’s a campaign or something new comes around, we have a personal relationship with these people. I can’t light the match, I don’t know when that spark will be but what we’re trying to do is use discipline and organization in order to effectively lay kindling all throughout the country so that when the spark does light we’ve got the whole team right there.

 

 






Mike Flaherty - Drummer (and Director of Content for Humdrum online)

 

 


 


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